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Log Book Abreviations (Air Gunnery)

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11 years 4 months ago #311 by brianj
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Hi,
There are some abreviations in my Fathers log book while he was at Gunnery training school at Pembrey (No.1 AGS) in 1942. You can make guesses about some of them but others I am not sure of. Anyone out there have any ideas - here they are:
The following were recorded while flying in a Blenheim and were recorded in the "Duty" column
FR.G.G - 2 exercises of 100rds splash (sea)
FR.BEAM - 2 exercises of 100rds 1:4 tracer
K.G.I - 1 exercise 25ft
FR.REL.BEAM - 1 exercise 100rds 1:4 tracer
FR.O (or this could be a "Q").XOVER - 2 exercises 100rds 1:4 tracer
FR.V.T - 2 exercise 100rds 1:4 tracer

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Brian

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11 years 4 months ago #312 by Gary
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No but I know a man who would, I'll give George Wootton a shout, he's an ex air gunner and runs the Air Gunners Association for Toquay and Devon. Unless of course you are reading this George? Matt if you are reading this give George a poke :D
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11 years 4 months ago - 11 years 4 months ago #324 by Wimpy
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Hi Brian

I started a similar thread on The Lancaster forum

You might some answers in the post there

lancaster-archive.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=620

K.G.I - 1 exercise 25ft probably refers to a gun camera exercise, the 25ft referring to the length of film taken

What aircraft was used for the training? My Dad did all his in an Anson (one dorsal turret) before going out to Palestine. I say this as I might be guessing that FR. may refer to the front turret?

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11 years 4 months ago #325 by brianj
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Thanks for that - I have had a look and will post any that are not explained. I have have registered for the site and am waiting for my confirmation.

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11 years 4 months ago #326 by Gary
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There is an abbreviations and acronyms page here on the site, I'll update it when I hear back from George (assuming he can assist).
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11 years 4 months ago #328 by brianj
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Hi,
Thanks to Wimpy I had a look on the Lancaster forum for his post and some of the replies. I am awaiting my registration so I can add some of my specific abreviations. There are one or two that fit my abreviations which I list below:
FR.Q.XOVER - the FR appears to stand for firing. The Q.XOVER is for Quarter Crossover - this being where the pilot carried out weaving manouvres from port to starboard above the "drogue" towing aircraft or static target for deflection shooting exercise. This exercise was the one that failed many pupils due to chronic airsickness.

FR.G.G - 100yards splash - This is probably an exercise where the gunner shoots at a target floating in the sea (or lake) and the splashes are from rounds hitting the water which could be visually seen and assessed (not sure what the G.G stands for).

FR.BEAM - firing at a beam target? - needs to be confirmed.

KGI - 1 exercise 25 feet could be the use of a camera to film the shooting where the 25 ft is the length of film allocated to the gunner.

I will update these definitions if and when I get any


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Brian

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