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10 years 8 months ago #130 by brianj
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Hi,
There is a discussion currently going on in Researchers Corner concerning a photograph of a crashing plane. The photo was supplied by James Moran whose grandfather served with 215 squadron and I thought there would be a general interest in the forum.
The photo in question is located at
http://rafb24.com/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&page=inline&id=1178

on this site.
Matt Poole has recognised the plane and has posted a query on
www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?p=39496
to see if he can find out more details.
Matt's comments concerning the plane are as follows:

... I peeked at the photo of the plane falling with the missing wing...and, by golly, it is an RAF Lysander in green/brown camouflage, not a Japanese plane. The number on the underside of the wing, L4691, even matches up to a known Lizzie. I googled on this serial, and found proof, but I can't find anything on its fate. Nothing to match up to its demise. If I get a chance, I'll post a query on the RAF Commands message board, and someone will have the answer in milliseconds (well, milliminutes, hours, days...).

Any comments would be welcome

cheers

Brian

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10 years 8 months ago #821 by brianj
brianj replied the topic: Uploaded Photos - Crashing Plane
Hi,
There is a discussion currently going on in Researchers Corner concerning a photograph of a crashing plane. The photo was supplied by James Moran whose grandfather served with 215 squadron and I thought there would be a general interest in the forum.
The photo in question is located at
http://rafb24.com/index.php?option=com_rsgallery2&page=inline&id=1178

on this site.
Matt Poole has recognised the plane and has posted a query on
www.rafcommands.com/forum/showthread.php?p=39496
to see if he can find out more details.
Matt's comments concerning the plane are as follows:

... I peeked at the photo of the plane falling with the missing wing...and, by golly, it is an RAF Lysander in green/brown camouflage, not a Japanese plane. The number on the underside of the wing, L4691, even matches up to a known Lizzie. I googled on this serial, and found proof, but I can't find anything on its fate. Nothing to match up to its demise. If I get a chance, I'll post a query on the RAF Commands message board, and someone will have the answer in milliseconds (well, milliminutes, hours, days...).

Any comments would be welcome

cheers

Brian

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10 years 8 months ago #825 by Matt_Poole
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The responses to my query regarding the fate of Lysander L4691 indicate that a) it became an instructional airframe and was not lost in a flying accident, and b) it seems likely to be a model, as a Lysander wing would not detach so cleanly in a flying accident.

I should add that I cannot see color in a black and white photo. I was just guessing that the camouflage was green and brown...

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Matt

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10 years 8 months ago #828 by MartinB
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Surely the main spar would run through both wings? I can't imagine what event would result in a main spar fracturing as cleanly as that in mid flight. If it did, then the likely outcome would be a large smoking hole in the ground with insufficient remains to become an instructional airframe.

FWIW, my money's on the model hypothesis.

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10 years 8 months ago #829 by brianj
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Hi
Just been reading the responses to the photo on the RAF Commands site and the general opinion seems to be that it is either a model or faked. I dont think it was faked by James as he supplied about 40 photos belonging to his grandfather and they all look to be genuine 1944/45 vintage.

Any other ideas?

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